Rick's Dancer's Blog on the top two proposal is interesting. He pastes a big long op-ed from Phil Keisling and then asks people their opinions. http://blog.rickdancer.com/2008/05/open-primary-in-oregon-what-do-you-think/ (It's curious that he uses blog software I helped security audit and contributed code for -- wordpress. I actually wrote my own blog software for my website: http://swoolley.org/blog.cgi?get=src ) Every comment Rick got (seven out of seven) is against the top two, and all for various different reasons and all across the political spectrum -- greens, independents, republicans. What's he doing supporting it? Today in his endorsement meeting he said he's officially supporting the top two primary -- a decision today to support it. Huh? But he sent in a ballot statement on August 26th: http://www.sos.state.or.us/elections/nov42008/military_vp/dance_r.pdf His statement clearly indicating he supports "opening the primary election". If that's not "already supporting it", I'm not sure what is. He also "interprets" the comments that say, "gee, I could do away with party labels, but the implementation is wrong," and then says, "I like that I'm hearing that we should get rid of party labels." What's going on with Rick Dancer? To be honest, I'm not sure. I posted another comment just to clarify another issue Rick seemed to bring up: In response to the common refrain that minor parties and non-affiliated voters don't get their primary processes paid for the solution is easy: Pay for their primary processes just like we do with the other 60%, the two major parties. It wouldn't cost that much more with modern technology. And for non-affiliated voters you hand them a ballot with non-affiliated candidates with a none-of-the-above vote option. Anybody who beats out none-of-the-above is nominated to the general election. This doesn't destroy parties (and third parties), equalizes access for independents on the ballot, and costs the same as Phil's proposal. There are simple solutions, and then there's Phil's dangerous top-two proposal. Let's consider direct solutions that don't upend the system we already have that's providing a place for third parties to be heard -- instead let's improve the dialog by opening up access to the primary process for non-affiliated voters directly. Centrists should also create their own party, instead of gerrymandering the primary system for their own benefit.